Sunday, February 23, 2020

63. MY RELIGIOUS TURNING POINT ... 4




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We inherit our religion from our parents. May be there are some exceptions. But normally this is true - religion is birth or family-related or inherited. Therefore, we imbibe the religious faith and rituals from very early age. Normally what is imposed by the family and the background gets deep into our mind as very strong and unquestionable faith. As I said earlier, even questioning this faith is normally considered very uncouth and unnecessary. Normally people do  not dare to do it. They always walk on the well-trodden good old path never wave from it. It was so for me too, but only in the beginning.

When I started questioning my own faith, it was after a long struggle with my internal force. I thought in those days how come a very normal guy like me can question the Christian faith while I see day in and day out so many scholastic theologians. When those knowledgeable persons accept faith so completely, how can I refute the faith? It was very hard to come over this stumbling block. But when I started questioning and finding my own truth, things started becoming brighter and easier. The very first question was about the free will of man and the will of god. I could find the incongruity of both of these  going together. I, though very hard in the beginning, accepted my conclusions on free will as stated earlier (in previous post). Then came the second important question. Christians always have a very strong conviction that prayer can make them achieve their wishes / desire.. Prayer was considered as a powerful tool. I questioned that. I found prayer and predeterminism  of god were again incongruous with each other. I found prayer only as a psychotherapy and not more than that. It may give solace and some peace to human mind. There it stops. Contrary to what  Christians believed prayer may not be a successful tool.

After I crossed over those first two hurdles, I overcame the usual reluctance to probe further. Rather I became more emboldened to question anything in religion. It became an academic interest. All inhibitions disappeared which I had in the initial stages. During this time, I set my own "Ten Commandments" as my disciplinary code. Of these ten, the second commandment was: "YOU OPEN YOUR OWN EYES". This commandment gave me the strength and guidance. I made up my mind: anything can be questioned; better I open my own eyes and start seeing things in that new light. These ideas filled my questioning, hungry mind.

One thing became very certain. Whatever may be the religion, a person born and brought up in that religion always strongly feels that his religion is the TRUE religion and starts to look down upon the other religions. This animosity for other religions is widely prevalent in the three Abrahamic religions - Judaism, Christianity and Islam. These three religions strongly emphasize this superiority and the people in these religions grow with this idea strongly rooted in their minds. They always keep their chins up thinking their religion is the true religion and their god is the only true god. They never think twice before insulting other religions. They call all the other religions as pagan religions. Quotes to prove this:

Isaiah 46:9    
remember the former things of old;
                              for I am God, and there is no other;
                              I am God, and there is none like me,

1 Timothy 6:3-4.
If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus    Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions . . . 
Matthew 7:26 
But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand.

This continuous search made me form a hypothesis: It is perfectly correct if a person says that his mother is a good cook; but if he says that his mother is the ONLY good cook … well, then he has to be vehemently protested and corrected. This same feeling persists among the highly religious people: they claim only their religion is true; and their god is only true god.  They never hesitate to insult or degrade other religious faiths. We love our parents. We love them despite their shortcomings because they are our parents. This should be the mentality regarding our religions too. Your religion is good since you were brought up in it. In the same way for others their religion is good. This should be the real spirit of religious acceptance. This is much better than the often much used term, "religious tolerance". But in fact most of us are unable to see beyond our religions and faith. We are simply taught that religions other than yours are false or wrong.  In reality it is very hard to come out of this entrenched concept and almost impossible to have a proper religious tolerance and acceptance.

With this equanimity on different religions, I started to go further in my search. The very first thing was the loss of faith in my religion, Christianity. Christians attach so much importance to faith. The religion itself never encourages "questioning" faith; it prefers utmost faith, never questioning anything in the religious concepts, whether it is the holy trinity, the birth of Jesus from a virgin, his crucifixion and resurrection. Even the parables in Bible which were all praised so often became highly questionable for me. I questioned even the very wisdom of those parables. The countless 'miracles' postulated by Christianity became questions to me. The list is long. Let us consider them one by one.










Sunday, February 16, 2020

62. QUESTION ON PRAYER ...3

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QUESTION ON PRAYER

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RELIGION is a strong castle on a solid rock, the FAITH. Pillars of religion are always deep rooted into that rock and they are unassailable, unshakable and inscrutable for the BELIEVERS. What I did was testing the pillars one by one. When I tested the pillar on - FREEWILL - it wobbled.
My conviction is that free will of man and omniscience of an almighty would never stand together. Any one of these two should alone stand. If there is omniscience of god, free will becomes meaningless and defunct and vice versa. This tussle I had explained in the previous post. That led to me to a conclusion against what Christianity says.

The first defiance of my faith has pushed me to a next question: Question on prayer.

It is always said by prayer you can 'make' god do what you ask for. Prayers are considered by Christians
only as a tool to get the mercy of god. It is stressed that our daily life should be filled with prayers. But to me there was one another incongruity - who stands as the winner - will of god or human prayers? The following quotes proclaim the supremacy of god and his will.

 Proverbs 19:21

“Many are the plans in the mind of a man, but it is the purpose of the Lord that will stand.”

Proverbs 21:1

“The king’s heart is a stream of water in the hand of the Lord; he turns it wherever he will.”

Luke 12:7 
 But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore …
Romans 9: 18 - 20
Everything depends on what God decides to do, and he can either have pity on people or make them stubborn.
Someone may ask, “How can God blame us, if he makes us behave in the way he wants us to?” 20 But, my friend, I ask, “Who do you think you are to question God? Does the clay have the right to ask the potter why he shaped it the way he did?

Daniel 2:21

“He changes times and seasons; he removes kings and sets up kings; he gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding.”

Above quotes stress that everything is under the control and wish of god. God's omniscience gets fully established by these quotes. But there are another set of quotes wherein god's will gets deviated by ther prayers of believers.

Matthew 7:7  
“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

 Proverbs 15:29
The Lord is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous.
Mother Teresa
"God shapes the world by prayer. The more praying there is in the world the better the world will be, the mightier the forces against evil."
Thomas Watson
Prayer delights God's ear; it melts His heart; and opens His hand. God cannot deny a praying soul.

These above quotes show how god yields to prayers.

In our childhood days, we were always taught that a crying hungry child alone gets fed by its parents; in the same way by praying you get things from god. More so we were taught that prayer always wins. 'Victory through prayer' has been the often heard saying of Christian believers. Early morning prayer, fasting prayer, whole night prayer .. varieties of prayers among believers.

These beliefs  raised a question. Prayer is defined as a communication with god. You ask for it , you would get it. This is what most Christians feel and believe in. In continuation of my question of free will and predeterminism, god, the omniscient  knows what would happen, when  it would happen and all. Things were pre-decided. If so, how come a prayer from a believer would make any difference in his will? Things should happen as decided by god. So what do we get out of prayer. With or without prayers omniscient's decision or 'His Will' would be carried out. Even by praying a believer cannot make a dent in the predecided plan of god. Right? If so why prayers then?! Let all be His will ! 

In a light hearted vein, I thought of the prayers of Jesus. Jesus had been shown in Bible praying. But we never knew what he prayed for. But in Gethsemane he prays to relieve him of the crucifixion. Only time when we know what he prayed. Was it heard? Did his prayers change anything? If it is "but as thou will"    (Mat 26:39) .. why pray then?

·         Matthew 26:39  39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
·         Mark 14:36  Abba,[a] Father,” he said, “everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will.”
·         Luke 2242 “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.”

Jesus prayed like this 'to take this cup from him'. But god didn't !

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P.S.
Well, when I posted the above ideas in Tamil in my blog, surprisingly I got a comment from a 'fundamental' muslim that prayers of Prophet Esa were really heard by Allah. Rest of the story goes like this: Gibrail (Gabriel) comes before Esa in Gethsemane and commands Esa to run when he would be about to be arrested by Roman soldiers. They would run through a cave. During this, Esa had to scoop a handful of sand and hurl it on the face of a chasing soldier. Then, that soldier gets the face of Esa and he gets arrested and goes through the whole of Calvary and final crucifixion. The 'real' Esa escapes and stands on a stone at the opening  of the cave. From there he is taken to Jannah or heaven by angels. So prayers of Esa were heard and he gets what he prayed for!
Hope this post script would be interestingly new to many Chrisitians.





Friday, March 22, 2019

61. THE FIRST QUESTION ON RELIGION(S) FREE WILL ...2



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THE FIRST QUESTION ON  RELIGION(S)

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I was a very "regular"christian. From childhood I was brought up in that environment. I never missed Sunday masses. As a catholic quite fervently attended novena. Attending novena for Mary of Perpetual Help on Saturday evenings was so regular for years in my twenties. Wearing my religion on  my sleeve was then a pride. I defended Christianity and its principles and dogmas even with those who could have their negative weight on my life. My god was my first. That gave me that much audacity. I felt that i should defend Him. I thought it was my birthright as a christian. Regular to the weekly confessionals till my late thirties. There used to be some questions, now and then, but immediately threw them off. Because, i thought, while so many learned people were deep believers how could be a half-baked guy like me could raise questions on religion. Still the number of questions started to grow more and more. So i started to pray. "God! Give me the answers or at least spare me from such questions". God never heeded. So my mind started taking a different route. It all started in my early forties.

Though it started so explicitly at such an 'old' age, 'the beginning' of questions was from very early age too. In our childhood catechism classes, we were always discouraged to poke our noses to find answers or explanations on some of the religious dogmas and faiths. Any normal thinking person would have some questions raised in his mind when he is taught one of the very important - and very elusive - dogmas, the Holy Trinity. I too had it my early days. The list of course grew longer as time went by. The list has:

·         Holy Trinity
·         Resurrection
·         Who is the Christian god - the Father or Jesus, his only begotten son?
·         Parthenogenetic birth of Jesus
·         Communion becoming the Flesh of Jesus during a mass
·         How come a merciful god could create an eternal Hell, to punish sinful souls?
·         Human sacrifice Father wanted from Abraham.
·         Story of Abraham and his wife, Sara.
·         Some interesting and some "nasty" stories in OT.
·         The fearful, vengeful, jealousy and tooth-for-tooth God of OT.
·         Is there anything like fate?
·         The forbidden fruit of Eden.
                                            And lastly ...

QUESTIONS ON
FREE  WILL OF MAN
&
OMNISCIENCE OF GOD

Anybody who questions any of the above is always looked down by theists. Probably the only reason for their ire could be the uneasiness we put them in. Though Islamists say that they have answers for all questions from their Holy book they would be evasive if we ask them about 'fate'. Their answer usually is fate is Allah's matter or Allah's concern. Christianity goes against very heavily on such non-believers who raise such questions. “The god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ” (2 Corinthians 4:4). That is the punishment (?!) for the unbelievers in Christianity.


FREE WILL

Matthew 10:30   And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 

Luke 12:7   Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.
The two quotes are from the New Testament. So according to Christianity God is an all-knowing entity: that is omnipresent and omnipotent.  Omniscient in toto.

Usually this is followed with a simple question. God ordered Adam that the fruit of knowledge should not be eaten. Adam ate it. He had sinned. God became furious but did not know (!) where Adam was. But the Lord God called to the man and said to him, “Where are you? (Gen 3 : 7) ....   He (God) said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?”  (Gen 3: 11)] 

The questions:
·         Did God know that Adam would not abide his command?
·         If yes, then why did He give that command to Adam?
These questions are raised against the omniscience of God. Had He known why did he give that order. Had he been omniscient Adam could not have done that. So the story goes on ... with so many added questions.

Such a discussion had been going on for very long, probably it started along with earliest first believers. All along so many interpretations or explanations have been provided by many theologians. Some of them are as follows - with my comment within brackets.:
There is an apparent contradiction between God's omniscience and free will. This problem is formally described as a paradox of free will or theological fatalism. This contends that omniscience and free will are incompatible .
Augustine proposed that evil could not exist within God, nor be created by God, and is instead a by-product of God's creativity. ... He believed that this evil will, present in the human soul, was a corruption of the will given to humans by God, making suffering a just punishment for the sin of humans. (God cannot create evil; but evil could be a by-product ...looks very funny. Sounds so illogical.)

Christians who were influenced by the teachings of Jacobus Arminius (such as Methodists) believe that while God is all-knowing and he still gives them the ability to choose or not choose everything, regardless of whether there are any internal or external factors contributing to that choice. (if so, does god know what the man would do? Adam's case may be cited here.)

The Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church asserts that "Freedom is the power, rooted in reason and will". It goes on to say that "God created man a rational being, conferring on him the dignity of a person who can initiate and control his own actions. God willed that man should be left in the hand of his own counsel. (If so man is not under god's control; so god is not omnipotent?)

The above said interpretations have not given a direct and correct answer. They were mostly beating around the bush and very much verbose. My contention has always been that no religion can answer rational questions. When god has said that even hairs on a person's head are numbered it simply means god is omnpotent and all that happens in our lives were all under his control. In that case, there is no space for free will. Assuming that god has given free will and man can handle things all by himself, then god cannot be omnipresent, since god may not know what the man would do. It was like Adam- God story. God said no to a fruit; but Adam ate that; then god comes to know; then curses mankind to a hard and painful life.

So the question still stands strong: can omniscience and free will co-exist? The answer is simply "no"!

An extra information on free will in Islam: 

P.S.:     Disputes about free will in Islam began with the Mu'tazili vs Hanbali disputes, with the Mu'tazili arguing that humans had qadar, the capacity to do right or wrong, and thus deserved the reward or punishment they received, whereas Hanbali insisted on God's jabr, or total power and initiative in managing all events.


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Saturday, November 10, 2018

60. MY TWO BASIC QUESTIONS TO BELIEVERS



Let me start with TWO questions:


1. Some quotes to show what a tiny piece is our earth in the galaxies:


·         The number of galaxies cannot be counted—the observable universe alone may contain 100 billion.

·         The universe's largest known galaxies are giant elliptical galaxies, which may be as much as two million light-years long.

·         The visible universe is about 98 billion light years in diameter; and the diameter of the earth only about 0.04 light seconds.

·         Earth is a small tiny piece in our universes. 

We live on such a tiny speck of dust, a very little thing in the universe. But all our religions tell us gods come to this speck to salvage the Homo sapiens, even leaving out all other living things on this planet.



The two facts, earth being so small and gods select only this planet, sound so illogical. How come gods selected only this part of universe to have all their funny games? Who knows, they do this in all habitable planets - I don't think this answer is suffice. The geocentric and anthropocentric ideas of all religions are highly questionable.



2. NO RELIGION IS UNIVERSAL. All religions are topographic-specific. Gods of a country go around only in that country and never dare to visit other countries, let alone continents.  

Greek gods roam around Greece; all hill tops in Greece are their abodes. No Greek god appeared anywhere other than Greece.

All Hindu gods - innumerable in number - never crossed the borders of India. They may be in Himalayas or in Cape Comerin, the southernmost end of India. They had their flying fleet but never crossed our shores. Even to Sri Lanka Rama (man or god?) waded through a (Hanu)man made (sic)bridge!

Same goes true for all three Abrahamic religions - Judaism, Christianity and Islam. They have a common big god - Jehova. But all happenings detailed in Torah, Old and New Testaments and Quran were there only in the Middle East. Leave alone the gods; even the prophets, ruling dynasties, and all miracles like being swallowed by whales and regurgitated the live prophet after three days; the Noah's arc ....  you name any person or any incident in these three holy books, all these men and matters belong to Middle East. Not even  a single prophet came from another country or continent. WHY? 

This just proves every religion is a localised entity and was the creation of the people of a specific country. Had there been one god, it should have gone to all places of our earth to salvage all human souls; nothing should restrain the omniscient god to crossing oceans or mountains ...


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Wednesday, March 19, 2014

58. ANOTHER POEM ON MY PATH




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You’ve had a good life –
You’ve left a maverick mark
On the modern sands of education;
A lot of people respect you
A lot of your students adore you; you’ve made a little of a lot of students,
You’ve had French Café atmosphere times with the
                                                               aroma of intellectual stuff
you’ve enjoyed the world with your camera
you’ve lived and loved and laughed till you cried.

So be happy …. You ought to be
It’s only a few people who could have enjoyed life like you did.

I suppose you could have run other things too
May be better than others.
But when, if you could have done it then
You can do it now too.

At least
In a different way, through a different role,
With or without official badges.
It’s the things done which matters, yes?

Do it Sam. Make a difference
Start an organization like Cry – perhaps.
Make it work.
Make me more proud of you.
Come to think of it, for whatever little, it may mean to you
I never interacted like this, with anyone else
In the whole of the universe,
The soul of Sam means the most to me.

Since you came into my life,
Life has become heady like champagne ( J I’ve never tasted it but…)

I wish I could tell you
How much I like you
Or may be, just may be
You feel the same way
And so you know.

If at the end of life
If all souls are free and asked
To choose their own heaven
If God were to say to me
‘you’ve been good,
What do you want?’

I would say – ‘Sam”!